The recent linguistic mutation of using the verb "to go" as a substitute for "to say" is a fad that will expire before the end of the current century.

By 2 knappster on March 08, 2007

Also inspired by Rachel's comments on this claim.

Language evolves by changes at the margins.  That change is driven by utility.  Radical changes to fundamental usage are too disruptive of communication to be of practical value.  So they are ultimately rejected for that reason.

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10 Rachel who hasn't voted, says

How do you know how old that use is? Have you researched it? I haven't, but I grew up with it. Maybe it's a classic, and you just never noticed.

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2 John Mac who hasn't voted, says

Will the geordie verb 'to gans' disappear at the same time

I gans, you gans, they gans, she gans, he gans, we gans

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4 Zen Device who disagreed, says

Can you give me an example of the usage you're talking about? It's possible I use this construction myself in informal situations.

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10 Rachel who hasn't voted, says

Devnull, see the comments in the claim this was inspired by. I used it, as it is natural to me, and knappster found it odd.

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9 Glad Rag Kraken who agreed, says

Yeah, clearly it will be replaced by, "and they were all like" and "and I was all like".

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2 knappster who agreed, says

I think the usage started in the 1970s.  Check out the lyrics to Frank Zappa's song, Valley Girl and you'll see some interesting language.  Note how some of the expressions to which he reacted have been retained, while others have been dropped.

Grody to the max?
Barf me out?
Tubular?

Hmm ...

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1 brim4brim who agreed, says

Nobody I've ever known has ever used this.

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10 Rachel who hasn't voted, says

Well, I was raised in New York, mainly through the eighties. So, apparently it spread to that place and that time.

I don't mind my language having modern influences.

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7 Cobra Baghdad who disagreed, says

Some people believe that it was a logical following of the liguistic use of the past tense of "to go" from the fourties (when it was used in the song "clang clang clang went the trolley."

So my objection to it is that I object to using the term recently. The phrase, "they go wow, there's a word for that?" wouldn't have been used in 1940, but "I went then we should oust hitler!" It was used for declaratives as opposed to the modern which can be used for most any statement.

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1 Joey Joy who agreed, says

English has a great capacity for maintaining all words, especially irregular verbs. There are some great books out recently on this history of English words and phrases.

Though in this case I can easily see "Johnnie goes 'woo'" eventually being as "frowned upon" as "ain't". It'll still exist, but users of it will be considered "ignorant". Snobbery will never go away either!! HA!

Still, I go "yes" (and hide my crystal balls).

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4 Zen Device who disagreed, says

This claim is just wishful thinking.

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2 knappster who agreed, says

Well, I did offer some reasoning.  :-p

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3 Mark J who disagreed, says

It's at least as old as "Pop goes the weasel".

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3 Mark J who disagreed, says

Apparently this construction was in use in the 17th century:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Goes_the_Weasel

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10 Rachel who hasn't voted, says

As much as this is defending my own usage... I think Pop Goes the Weasel is a bad example. The popping isn't something being said, even though it is a sound made. And the structure is necessary for the pun, for it to change from pop goes the weasel being a statement about making things to a statement about running out of money.

The Wikipedia article seems to have slightly different information on the meaning of it than I've read previously, but either way the dual meaning is there.

I'd been taught (somewhere or other) that the weasel is your spending cash. And thus:

A penny for a spool of thread
A penny for a needle
That's the way the money goes
Pop goes the weasel

Is showing how quickly your money gets depleted.

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2 knappster who agreed, says

Weasels don't say anything.  The argument based on that nursery rhyme is a non sequitur.

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1 Mackenzie Morgan who hasn't voted, says

Zebediah, "I was like" often involves mimicking a tone of voice, inflection, and possibly gestures. It really doesn't mean the same as "I said" because it's to introduce that you will then *act* in a way that is *like* what the person you are "quoting" (imitating) did.

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