I've noticed that people on Jyte get caught up with just getting agreement with their claim. They water it down with weasel words to avoid the nitpicking until almost anything is arguably true.
Rather than regarding claims as some perfectly polished way of partitioning those of differing views, I think of them more as an invitation for discussion. Weasel words don't particularly detract from the effectiveness in that regard. People can specialise or generalise in the comments to their hearts content.
that's true, but then i fail to see the point of a voting mechanism. fundamentally agreeing or not agreeing with the claim is a very useful part of what jyte allows people to express; that should no be corrupted by people making the claim fundamentally so weak as to be universally -- or even nearly universally -- agreed (or disagreed) upon.
not that they should never do this, just that, in general, when it can be easily avoided, it's more interesting if it is.
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please consider reclaiming: Using weasel words has been found to often make a claim up to 50% less effective.
i dunno about often ... sometimes.
I've noticed that people on Jyte get caught up with just getting agreement with their claim. They water it down with weasel words to avoid the nitpicking until almost anything is arguably true.
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The fruit of the soil sowed with pedantry is bitter indeed.Wyscan: yes. well, it's a hard balance between coping with the pedantry and weaseling.
P.Car: no, dickhead, you're my nemesis, of course we ain't cool.
Wyscan: and making everything absolutes is no better.
P.Car: you nit.
Nice capitalization and punctuation, fucktard.
But "weasel" is an inherently funny word.
And I'd say, up to 50% or more!
Rather than regarding claims as some perfectly polished way of partitioning those of differing views, I think of them more as an invitation for discussion. Weasel words don't particularly detract from the effectiveness in that regard. People can specialise or generalise in the comments to their hearts content.
that's true, but then i fail to see the point of a voting mechanism. fundamentally agreeing or not agreeing with the claim is a very useful part of what jyte allows people to express; that should no be corrupted by people making the claim fundamentally so weak as to be universally -- or even nearly universally -- agreed (or disagreed) upon.
not that they should never do this, just that, in general, when it can be easily avoided, it's more interesting if it is.