Most tags should fit at the end of the sentence “This claim is about...”

By 3 Martin Atkins on March 09, 2007

Which implies that they should be proper nouns, plural regular nouns, non-count nouns or gerunds.

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10 Rachel who disagreed, says

I was discussing this tonight. As much as I dislike singular noun tags; it's better. Tags need to match cred to be useful, and making cred plural is stupid. I get geek cred; I'm not going to get geeks cred. So, tagging claims "geeks" doesn't work well.

The need to have cred and tags match is a real problem, but I think cred should take precedence. Having the tag be singular isn't that bad.

There is a discussion on Jyte of this somewhere where Vynce outlines a bunch of ideas about how tagging can best be done. Or so he said. I haven't seen it or looked for it.

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6 D'Archangel who disagreed, says

Ideally, yes (see all my tags from before to this evening). But I find the "cred and tags should match, and cred wins" argument persuasive.

D'A

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8 Vynce who disagreed, says

I disagree fundamentally, as the sentence could just as easily be "This is a ___-related claim" (or even just "This is a ___ claim").

and there are other reasons that i mention in a comment on a claim from way back in the day.

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3 Martin Atkins who agreed, says

Given that many people have been trained from other sites to tag in the form I describe here, I put it to you that the bad linkage between cred and claim tags is a design flaw of Jyte.

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10 Rachel who disagreed, says

I agree with the design flaw thing, but it's a hard one to get around. It occurs to me that much cred is in plural. Things should be pluralized (squirrels, marmots, weasels, etc.), but attributes should be singular (geek, feminist, equalist).

This is the way my cred seems to work, and I think it'll work okay for tagging.

I think someone is more likely to have claims cred than claim cred, but more likely to have writer cred than writers cred.

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8 Vynce who disagreed, says

i still say "squirrel cred" sounds beter than "squirrels cred". pedantry cred is better than pedantic cred. the real rule is that it should be the most natural noun form, the argument is about what's most natural. I say stuff if it's stuff, or combination stuff and things; singular thing itf it's things, unless it must be plural to distinguish it from stuff or trademark.

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8 Vynce who disagreed, says

oh, and just because other sites do it wrong doesn't mean we should. other sites do it wrong becae i've never been around to enlighten people how to tag on other sites. (:

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9 Glad Rag Kraken who disagreed, says

@R: Writer cred implies that one knows how to write. Writers cred implies knows about different authors. Clearly you are correct that this is not as simple as making all noun based cred singular or plural. As an aside, I suspect that there are more people who know a good bit about writers than there are people who write particularly well. I am much more likely to give out writers cred.

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10 Rachel who disagreed, says

That's a good point; they do imply different things. I hadn't thought about that as I was trying to come up with quick examples. It is complicated.

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