Well, constructed languages can provide some insight into how language works in the first place, so no, it's not a complete waste of time. Of course there are more useful constructed languages out there.
I think learning Tsolyáni is less of a waste of time. And for the record, I think beating your forehead into a plastered wall is less a waste of time than learning Tsolyáni.
But artificial languages no one speaks don't really work like that. It isn't the language that changes the way you think, it's the culture. The difference between an English and Spanish speaker is less about vowel sounds and more about concepts like the perminancy of relationships, signs of which exist in their languages, but it's the culture that gives it significance.
but it was created by people who were real, and so probably reflects interesting things abut the way they peak. also, there is a real culture of klingon speakers, even if they are not native klingon speakers.
and if there are artificial constraints, so what? it still affects the way you think, and possibly give you a new way to think, which may be useful someday.
Actually, Lojban (or rather it's predecessor, Loglan - both names means "logical language" in their respective language) was created just because of that hypothesis. It's meant to be so ridiculously flexible, that complex concepts will become easy, which should mean that you'll be able to think about things in ways you couldn't otherwise. After having studied it for a while, I realized that while all concepts are quite easy to grasp, just mapping them to "normal language" is extremely complex, because the language just doesn't work like it "should", something I took as proof that it actually does give me new ways to think. Or rather, it would have, if I'd actually learned it properly...
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Learning ANYTHING is never a waste of time as it teaches you ... LEARNING.
Learning Klingon being the sole exception to the above rule.
LOLPWND!
Well, constructed languages can provide some insight into how language works in the first place, so no, it's not a complete waste of time. Of course there are more useful constructed languages out there.
I think learning Tsolyáni is less of a waste of time. And for the record, I think beating your forehead into a plastered wall is less a waste of time than learning Tsolyáni.
not a COMPLETE waste of time... there have got to be some hot chicks who dig guys who speak klingon... somewhere out there.... somewhere!
yes, but two of them are poly.
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There is a correlation between science fiction fandom and polyamoryI back up my position with the Saphir-Whorf hypothesis
No, not Worf. Whorf.
But artificial languages no one speaks don't really work like that. It isn't the language that changes the way you think, it's the culture. The difference between an English and Spanish speaker is less about vowel sounds and more about concepts like the perminancy of relationships, signs of which exist in their languages, but it's the culture that gives it significance.
There is no real Klingon culture.
but it was created by people who were real, and so probably reflects interesting things abut the way they peak. also, there is a real culture of klingon speakers, even if they are not native klingon speakers.
and if there are artificial constraints, so what? it still affects the way you think, and possibly give you a new way to think, which may be useful someday.
brain exercise. it's got value.
Actually, Lojban (or rather it's predecessor, Loglan - both names means "logical language" in their respective language) was created just because of that hypothesis. It's meant to be so ridiculously flexible, that complex concepts will become easy, which should mean that you'll be able to think about things in ways you couldn't otherwise. After having studied it for a while, I realized that while all concepts are quite easy to grasp, just mapping them to "normal language" is extremely complex, because the language just doesn't work like it "should", something I took as proof that it actually does give me new ways to think. Or rather, it would have, if I'd actually learned it properly...
...because of that, I refuse to accept that Klingon would be waste of time, for the exact same reason.