My disagreement registers the fact that this is a silly thing to have an opinion on. The jury is still out, scientifically, on this question—so if you're not a climtaologist, what opinion can you have?
actually, the scientific jury is mostly in; however i am no voting because, while it is too late to prevent eh warming that has happened, we can do things to help return to a natural cycle.
I agree that its too late to stop global warming having a major impact but it isn't too late to stop it in the long run.
We have messed up bad though and it will have serious consequences for us and even more so for the poorer regions and various wildlife and animals on the planet.
I suspect the only way to get through this is to develop the technology to control the planet's the climate. Don't laugh. It also means no more ice ages, ever (as long as we have the tech).
Don't know enough to know if it's too late - who does? - but it sure as hell has got to be worth trying. Most of the changes we'd have to make stand a good chance of improving the day-to-day quality of life as a by-product.
Well, in the 1600's in Britain the Thames river would freeze over each year and people would skate on it .... 1700's was significantly warmer and wetter in the UK than recent history. In the 1980's the scientists were warning us that we were entering the next ice age yet now the same scientists warn about global warming. CO2 emmissions may indeed be a causal factor in the rise in global temperature ... but if it is, the scientists sure as heck can't prove it. Of course it may just be a part of the natural climatic cycles and occillations that the world experiences.
If the scare tactics encourage people to reduce pollution then I don't mind.
You can't stop it, but it isn't because of humanity, because if it is a natural cycle, and the industrial revolution was arguably recent, C02 emissions cannot be the dominant cause for the climate change.
If human activities can be made carbon neutral, it stands to reason that carbon sequestration technologies would eventually "undo the damage" we've done in the last 150 years or so. The important questions are, how long will that take, and what's going to happen to the environment between now and then? Will humanity survive? Of course. Will tens (hundreds?) of millions of people be displaced by rising sea levels? Probably. Will rapidly changing climates decimate biodiversity, cause disease and famine, and make many places on Earth inhospitable for human life? That's already happening.
We can do what we can to prevent global warming. From there, the earth can do it's best to heal itself. It's better to do something than do nothing and face our doom.
We can't prevent global warming. It's already underway. We can slow its progress. We might be able to take drastic measures to counteract it. But we're not going to stop increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere for some time.
Ohhh, but we can make it chilly, alright, Rorek. Did you know that global temperatures dropped when Mt.St. Helens blew? We certainly have the technology to mimic that.
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Global warming and cooling are natural planetary phases anyway. Good luck trying to stop that. For example, read about the "Great [Ocean] Conveyor."
Umm...the orange (temperature) line seems to be leading the blue (CO2%) line in your graph there...
My disagreement registers the fact that this is a silly thing to have an opinion on. The jury is still out, scientifically, on this question—so if you're not a climtaologist, what opinion can you have?
actually, the scientific jury is mostly in; however i am no voting because, while it is too late to prevent eh warming that has happened, we can do things to help return to a natural cycle.
The preponderance of evidence clearly shows that human-created climate change is already greater than the "natural planetary phases" cited by cygnus.
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Millennial Northern Hemisphere Temperature Reconstruction
Combined Land and Sea Surface Temperatures: 1861-2000
Atmospheric Greenhouse Gas Concentrations
I agree that its too late to stop global warming having a major impact but it isn't too late to stop it in the long run.
We have messed up bad though and it will have serious consequences for us and even more so for the poorer regions and various wildlife and animals on the planet.
What makes you think we have the power to control it? I think we overestimate our influence.
Too late to reverse it?
Too late to halt it?
Can it ever be too late to do either of those things? How can we know?
I suspect the only way to get through this is to develop the technology to control the planet's the climate. Don't laugh. It also means no more ice ages, ever (as long as we have the tech).
Maybe I've seen to many James Bond movies.
Don't know enough to know if it's too late - who does? - but it sure as hell has got to be worth trying. Most of the changes we'd have to make stand a good chance of improving the day-to-day quality of life as a by-product.
Can I have a Mars Bar, please?
Well, in the 1600's in Britain the Thames river would freeze over each year and people would skate on it .... 1700's was significantly warmer and wetter in the UK than recent history. In the 1980's the scientists were warning us that we were entering the next ice age yet now the same scientists warn about global warming. CO2 emmissions may indeed be a causal factor in the rise in global temperature ... but if it is, the scientists sure as heck can't prove it. Of course it may just be a part of the natural climatic cycles and occillations that the world experiences.
If the scare tactics encourage people to reduce pollution then I don't mind.
You can't stop it, but it isn't because of humanity, because if it is a natural cycle, and the industrial revolution was arguably recent, C02 emissions cannot be the dominant cause for the climate change.
&russian&: Уже слишком поздно, чтобы остановить глобальное потепление.
Where's my Mars bar? I might dress a bit rough, but I've got money.
If human activities can be made carbon neutral, it stands to reason that carbon sequestration technologies would eventually "undo the damage" we've done in the last 150 years or so. The important questions are, how long will that take, and what's going to happen to the environment between now and then? Will humanity survive? Of course. Will tens (hundreds?) of millions of people be displaced by rising sea levels? Probably. Will rapidly changing climates decimate biodiversity, cause disease and famine, and make many places on Earth inhospitable for human life? That's already happening.
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Famine is an actual problem for humanity.Do you actually sell Mars bars?
Hehe, given that the first planet to be terraformed will be Earth itself.
Here it is DeWe.
Thanks, I was absolutely Hank Marvin.
How much do I owe you, Rael?
Nothing! Enjoy.
Thanks.
Here's a complimentary picture of a nice horse.
Oh thank GOD Rael got you a freakin' Mars bar! I couldn't take your whining any longer. You are the pits when you're hungry.
Got a Twix, anyone?
I could murder a Twix.
God, I'm so thin and wan looking.
TWIX!
Here. Now buy me a car.
Whiner.
Thank God for that; I was about to corpse.
Thanks, Ralph:
Here's a complimentary picture of a far better form of family transport.
Good for the environment, too.
Hah! So you make a tenuous reference to the subject at hand finally!
As I'd had enough to eat, I felt it appropriate. Got any Yorkies or a packet of Polos, by any chance? I'm Hank again.
God I miss Yorkies .... peanut Yorkies ... and Cadbury's Cream Eggs ..... and Jaffa Cakes.. Damn it Dewey, you've gone and made me hungry.
You could always eat your undies.
That's one of the reasons that they're such a great idea; snacks-on-the-run so to speak.
We can do what we can to prevent global warming. From there, the earth can do it's best to heal itself. It's better to do something than do nothing and face our doom.
We can't prevent global warming. It's already underway. We can slow its progress. We might be able to take drastic measures to counteract it. But we're not going to stop increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere for some time.
Ohhh, but we can make it chilly, alright, Rorek. Did you know that global temperatures dropped when Mt.St. Helens blew? We certainly have the technology to mimic that.
Global warming climate change or radioactive fallout climate change.... take your pick.
Mattocks are more useful.
He wasn't after he was thrown out of the Sexy Pistols.
Glenda Mattock.
"Did you know that global temperatures dropped when Mt.St. Helens blew? We certainly have the technology to mimic that."
People are working on that. (Whether it's a good idea is questionable, but it's believed to be quite feasible.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzMVfJKJK_c
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It's too late to stop global climate change as a result of human activity.After seeing that talk, I had to disagree and reclaim.