Do you mean "forcibly" rather than "forcefully"? in any case, (a) not all compulsion is forcible and (b) this was donr under state programs. the US didn't do it; the states did.
which doesn't make it OK, but it isn't what you make it out to be, either.
yes, the united states, i mean. it wasn't the union of the states, or the states united as a whole that did it. it was some of the individuals. it's like the difference between jyte doing something and some jyters doing something. jyte doesn't hate you, patrick -- but jyters do.
i care. there's no good direct way for the other states or the federal government to prevent a state from doing something like passing eugenics laws. about the fastest is a national law against such a thing, which seems unlikely to gain momentum without a media frenzy, or a supreme court challenge, which generally requires that someone be adversely affected by the law first.
i am torn. small groups of people should be able to do things that larger groups would never try, to prove they work.
unfortunately, some of these things don't work out for the better. others do. if this nation ever gets IRV or any other non-plurality voting mechanism, it will be because the larger cities & states did it first.
The role of the federal government should be to do the 7 things in the preamble of the constitution. Anything beyond those should fall to the states. Unfortunately, the Congress and the Senate have gone from meeting a few weeks to pass needed laws to a full time job inventing new laws that are completely unenforcable.
"[Appelflap] would abolish states' rights entirely," but I would gut the other end. A person is smart, people in groups are stupid. The larger the group the stupider.
"There should be some sort of enumeration of rights or something that applies to everyone and that even the states can't override." There is, it's called the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Two things the Federal Government doesn't follow any more.
The real problem is people don't realize that we are "...endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights..." and that "...to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the concent of the governed..." Moreover, "...when governments become destructive to these ends it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and establish new government..."
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Do you mean "forcibly" rather than "forcefully"? in any case, (a) not all compulsion is forcible and (b) this was donr under state programs. the US didn't do it; the states did.
which doesn't make it OK, but it isn't what you make it out to be, either.
yes, the united states, i mean. it wasn't the union of the states, or the states united as a whole that did it. it was some of the individuals. it's like the difference between jyte doing something and some jyters doing something. jyte doesn't hate you, patrick -- but jyters do.
i care. there's no good direct way for the other states or the federal government to prevent a state from doing something like passing eugenics laws. about the fastest is a national law against such a thing, which seems unlikely to gain momentum without a media frenzy, or a supreme court challenge, which generally requires that someone be adversely affected by the law first.
You have the right to leave your state.
i am torn. small groups of people should be able to do things that larger groups would never try, to prove they work.
unfortunately, some of these things don't work out for the better. others do. if this nation ever gets IRV or any other non-plurality voting mechanism, it will be because the larger cities & states did it first.
The role of the federal government should be to do the 7 things in the preamble of the constitution. Anything beyond those should fall to the states. Unfortunately, the Congress and the Senate have gone from meeting a few weeks to pass needed laws to a full time job inventing new laws that are completely unenforcable.
"[Appelflap] would abolish states' rights entirely," but I would gut the other end. A person is smart, people in groups are stupid. The larger the group the stupider.
"There should be some sort of enumeration of rights or something that applies to everyone and that even the states can't override." There is, it's called the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Two things the Federal Government doesn't follow any more.
The real problem is people don't realize that we are "...endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights..." and that "...to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the concent of the governed..." Moreover, "...when governments become destructive to these ends it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and establish new government..."
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People are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men -- deriving their just powers from the concent of the governed.