Both male and female circumcision is intolerably cruel mutilation.

By 4 fiXedd on August 09, 2007

I still hate my parents and grandparents for having me circumcised.

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It is the opinion of some intactivists that foreskin has up to twelve functions, such as to contact the G Spot. [7] It is the opinion of some researchers that foreskin can be a tool for intercourse. In the book Sex as Nature Intended It author Kristen O'Hara argues that foreskin is a natural gliding stimulator of the vaginal walls during intercourse, increasing a woman's overall clitoral stimulation and allowing for the achievement of female orgasm more often and in shorter periods of time. [8] It is therefore believed by some that the absence of the foreskin and gliding action makes it more difficult, not impossible, for a woman to achieve orgasm during intercourse.

In April 2007 medical journal BJU International published a study conducted by NOCIRC and Doctors Opposing Circumcision, which stated that it "conclusively shows that circumcised males have a significant penile sensory deficit as compared with non-circumcised intact men." and that "the most sensitive regions in the uncircumcised penis are those removed by circumcision."

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3 King-Billy Offsuit who disagreed, says

The reasons in favor of cutting it off are a crock, and it's genital mutilation, but since it's done right away as a baby I'd have to say "intolerably cruel" is going a bit far.

It's just a stupid tradition of genital mutilation though, and nothing else. If you support it, you may as well dance around a fire half naked in a loincloth and eat bugs, because that's how evolved you are

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4 fiXedd who agreed, says

I'll say that it's intolerably cruel not because of the initial pain, but because of the inability for proper functioning throughout the rest of the person's life.

Lets say that a person starts having sex at 15 and stops (or dies) at 60. That's 45 years of sexual dysfuction CAUSED by their family or family religion (note I didn't say THEIR religion). THAT is intolerably cruel in my mind.

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3 King-Billy Offsuit who disagreed, says

(er....I'm referring to male circumcision there)

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4 fiXedd who agreed, says

Yeah, me too. The original claim was going to be all about male circumcision, but I realized it applied to females too.

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4 Tad Duncan who disagreed, says

I was circumsized when I was ten (too much information, buy you asked for it). My foreskin had started to ... close ... to the point where I was in pain whenever I urinated. My circumcision was done for help reasons, and it would have been cruel for it not to be done.

I will agree that female circumcision is intolerably cruel/evil/barbaric and anyone who performs such a surgery should be locked away for all time.

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4 fiXedd who agreed, says

Hmm... I should have claimed either "Ritualistic circumcision is intolerably cruel mutilation for both females and males" or "Both male and female circumcision is intolerably cruel mutilation when not medically necessary."

Sometime I think I'm being clear enough when in fact I'm not. I blame emotional involvement.

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4 fiXedd who agreed, says

Can I give you "foreskin-less" cred?

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4 Tad Duncan who disagreed, says

Go for it. When I return the cred, should it be "foreskin-less" or "foreskin intact" cred?

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4 fiXedd who agreed, says

-less...that's why I'm so pissed :)

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10 Rachel who hasn't voted, says

When not done for valid medical reasons or with informed consent on an adult. But if either of the above two apply, then no.

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4 Tad Duncan who disagreed, says

Even if it's done to a child (male) for purely cultural/religious reasons, it's still not that bad a thing.... Female circumcision is a horrible crime, but male circumcision is much less harmful/horrible.

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10 Rachel who hasn't voted, says

I consider male circumcision less bad than female, because of the differences in what is done when those terms are used. However, I consider it incredibly unethical to make permanent changes to someone's body without medical need when that person cannot consent.

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4 Tad Duncan who disagreed, says

Unethical, yes... but it's rather not really good/bad for the male later on. So he has a slightly less sensitive penis head? At least he doesn't have to get sand stuck in there....

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