A method for imbedding claims into prose (without a frame) would allow more seemless integration of claims into blogs.
By
Oscar J Carlton IV
on February 05, 2007
We'd need a miniature version of the votes, maybe just text like (+10|-4). This might allow claims in environments outside of the modern browser.
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- 21-1 A jyte browser plugin could allow the creation of claims from highlighted text anywhere on the web, including metadata on the source.
- 45-3 Inspired claims should have cute little icons identifying themselves as such.
- 25-3 The simplest way to clarify an ambiguous claim is to make a related claim restating it with the necessary caveats.
Discussion (14)
A flash or javascript widget would be nice.
I think those are in the works. I was just thinking it'd be neat to highlight a sentence in my blog, click on a firefox plugin, and make that sentence map to a claim at jyte. It could be made minimally intrusive, so that people wouldn't detract from the flow of the text.
Now that's a good idea if I ever heard of one.
it would be nice if embeding claims didn't require iframe html support.
I wonder if it's possible to have up-to-date vote totals without javascript... How do the news articles with realtime inline stock quotes do it?
embedded flash?
Marquee tags?
refreshing/animated gifs?
What I was envisioning is something that at first glance is indistinguishable from the surrounding text. I'm afraid none of those mechanisms will work with the current generation of RSS/Atom, but I'm not positive.
It could be as simple as some html to copy into the clipboard:
claimtext
Could this be greasemonkey'd?
Sorry, was trying to put html in the previous comment. I mean that I'd like to generate the html for a link to the page, so that someone reading my blog could click on the text of the claim to get to the page for the claim.
That's the easy part. Now figure out how to put the vote totals into the href text and have it stay current without using flash or javascript.
it seems the most sensible way to do this is with an image. You put an image link in your blog to a jyte claim (or some ws wrapping the claims) and the image is rendered from the claim.
So some other site takes care of updating the image on demand?
Sites like last.fm already have scripts that create images with live information on demand. I think the best way, which would have minimal dependency on local flash/javascript/etc support and still preserve some accessibility (but still losing an important part) would be writing the claim title and link as static html, with an image for the current vote totals. There isn't really a way to make it more seamless without server-side scripting
Why not have the vote totals be text (dynamically fetched, if that's the word I want, from somewhere else)? When I proposed this thing, I was hoping for absolute minimalism. Let the embedder decide on the visual style.